Which has a bigger cup — Bach 10½C or Monette Vintage AP4 rim?

The Monette Vintage AP4 rim has a cup diameter of 16.20 mm / 0.6378 in compared to 15.90 mm / 0.6260 in on the Bach 10½C — a difference of 0.30 mm / 0.0118 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

How does cup depth compare between Bach 10½C and Monette Vintage AP4 rim?

Both mouthpieces share a medium cup depth, so the sound character from depth alone will be very similar.

Bach 10½C vs Monette Vintage AP4 rim

Name: Monette Vintage AP4 rim
Brand: Monette

The Monette Vintage AP4 rim has a wider cup diameter.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material

Surface plating or treatment (e.g. silver plate, gold trim). Affects feel, durability, and appearance.

Mouthpiece A

Bach 10½C

• Trumpet

Finish—

Mouthpiece B

Monette Vintage AP4 rim

• Trumpet

Finish—

Best suited for

🎵All-round versatile — balanced cup for general playing

Which is better?

Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.