Which has a bigger cup — Bach 11C or Bach 12?

The Bach 11C has a cup diameter of 24.70 mm / 0.9724 in compared to 24.50 mm / 0.9646 in on the Bach 12 — a difference of 0.20 mm / 0.0079 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

How does cup depth compare between Bach 11C and Bach 12?

The Bach 12 has a deep cup while the Bach 11C has a shallow cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.

Bach 11C vs Bach 12

Name: Bach 12
Brand: Bach

The Bach 11C has a wider cup diameter, the Bach 12 features a deeper cup.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material

Surface plating or treatment (e.g. silver plate, gold trim). Affects feel, durability, and appearance.

Mouthpiece A

Bach 11C

• Baritone / Euphonium

Finish—

Best suited for

📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

Mouthpiece B

Bach 12

• Baritone / Euphonium

Finish—

Best suited for

🎻Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone

📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

Which is better?

Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.