Which has a bigger cup — Bach 12CW or Bach 17C?

The Bach 12CW has a cup diameter of 15.20 mm / 0.5984 in compared to 15.10 mm / 0.5945 in on the Bach 17C — a difference of 0.10 mm / 0.0039 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

How does cup depth compare between Bach 12CW and Bach 17C?

Both mouthpieces share a medium cup depth, so the sound character from depth alone will be very similar.

Bach 12CW vs Bach 17C

Name: Bach 17C
Brand: Bach

The Bach 12CW has a wider cup diameter.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material

The width of the rim surface that contacts the lips. Wider rims improve endurance; narrower rims improve flexibility.

Mouthpiece A

Bach 12CW

• Cornet

Rim width—

Mouthpiece B

Bach 17C

• Cornet

Rim width—

Which is better?

Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.