Bach 12E vs Schilke 51C4

The Schilke 51C4 has a wider cup diameter, the Schilke 51C4 has a larger throat opening.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
How deep the cup is, from shallow (brighter, easier high register) to deep (darker, fuller sound).
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 12E
    • Trombone
    Cup depthShallow
    Best suited for
    📣High-volume projection — open throat for power
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Schilke 51C4
      • Trombone
      Cup depthShallow
      Best suited for
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

      Cup Depth

      Both mouthpieces share a shallow cup depth, so the sound character from depth alone will be very similar.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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