Bach 17C vs Yamaha AH-38D4

The Bach 17C has a wider cup diameter, the Yamaha AH-38D4 features a deeper cup, the Bach 17C has a larger throat opening.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
The internal diameter of the cup, measured at the widest point inside the rim.
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 17C
    • Baritone / Euphonium
    Cup diameter24.20 mm / 0.9528 in
    Best suited for
    📣High-volume projection — open throat for power
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Yamaha AH-38D4
      • Baritone / Euphonium
      Cup diameter18.90 mm / 0.7441 in
      Best suited for
      🎻Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

      Cup Diameter

      The Bach 17C has a cup diameter of 24.20 mm / 0.9528 in compared to 18.90 mm / 0.7441 in on the Yamaha AH-38D4 — a difference of 5.30 mm / 0.2087 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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