Bach 17D vs Bach 3
The Bach 3 has a wider cup diameter, the Bach 3 features a deeper cup.
The internal diameter of the cup, measured at the widest point inside the rim.
Mouthpiece A
Bach 17D
• Baritone / Euphonium
Cup diameter24.20 mm / 0.9528 in
Best suited for
High-volume projection — open throat for power
vs
Mouthpiece B
Bach 3
• Baritone / Euphonium
Cup diameter26.26 mm / 1.0339 in
Best suited for
Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone
High-volume projection — open throat for power
Cup Diameter
The Bach 3 has a cup diameter of 26.26 mm / 1.0339 in compared to 24.20 mm / 0.9528 in on the Bach 17D — a difference of 2.06 mm / 0.0811 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.
Which is better?
Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.