Bach 17D vs Bruno Tilz 213- D 2
The Bach 17D has a wider cup diameter, the Bruno Tilz 213- D 2 features a deeper cup, the Bach 17D has a larger throat opening.
The internal diameter of the cup, measured at the widest point inside the rim.
Mouthpiece A
Bach 17D
• Baritone / Euphonium
Cup diameter24.20 mm / 0.9528 in
Best suited for
High-volume projection — open throat for power
vs
Mouthpiece B
Bruno Tilz 213- D 2
• Baritone / Euphonium
CatalogCup diameter23.00 mm / 0.9055 in
Best suited for
High-volume projection — open throat for power
Cup Diameter
The Bach 17D has a cup diameter of 24.20 mm / 0.9528 in compared to 23.00 mm / 0.9055 in on the Bruno Tilz 213- D 2 — a difference of 1.20 mm / 0.0472 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.
Which is better?
Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.