Which has a bigger cup — Bach 8½A or Giardinelli 3V?

The Giardinelli 3V has a cup diameter of 17.00 mm / 0.6693 in compared to 16.10 mm / 0.6339 in on the Bach 8½A — a difference of 0.90 mm / 0.0354 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

How does cup depth compare between Bach 8½A and Giardinelli 3V?

Both mouthpieces share a very deep cup depth, so the sound character from depth alone will be very similar.

Bach 8½A vs Giardinelli 3V

Name: Giardinelli 3V
Brand: Giardinelli

The Giardinelli 3V has a wider cup diameter.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material

Surface plating or treatment (e.g. silver plate, gold trim). Affects feel, durability, and appearance.

Mouthpiece A

Bach 8½A

• Cornet

Finish—

Mouthpiece B

Giardinelli 3V

• Cornet

Finish—

Best suited for

🎻Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone

Which is better?

Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.