Bach 1½C vs Yamaha CR-11E4S

The Bach 1½C has a wider cup diameter, the Yamaha CR-11E4S features a deeper cup, the Yamaha CR-11E4S has a larger throat opening.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 1½C
    • Trumpet
    Cup diameter17.00 mm / 0.6693 in
    Cup depthMedium
    Rim width
    Throat diameter3.66 mm / 0.1441 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Yamaha CR-11E4S
      • Cornet
      Cup diameter16.46 mm / 0.6480 in
      Cup depthVery deep
      Rim width
      Throat diameter4.20 mm / 0.1654 in
      BackboreStandard
      Finish
      Material
      Best suited for
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

      Cup Diameter

      The Bach 1½C has a cup diameter of 17.00 mm / 0.6693 in compared to 16.46 mm / 0.6480 in on the Yamaha CR-11E4S — a difference of 0.54 mm / 0.0213 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      The Yamaha CR-11E4S has a very deep cup while the Bach 1½C has a medium cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.

      Throat Diameter

      The Yamaha CR-11E4S has a wider throat (4.20 mm / 0.1654 in vs 3.66 mm / 0.1441 in). A wider throat allows more air through, increasing volume and projection but reducing resistance.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

      Open in interactive tool + Add third mouthpiece Bach 1½C details Yamaha CR-11E4S details Bach 1½C equivalents Yamaha CR-11E4S equivalents