Bach 1¼C vs Yamaha TR-17D4

The Yamaha TR-17D4 has a wider cup diameter, the Yamaha TR-17D4 features a deeper cup, the Bach 1¼C has a larger throat opening.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 1¼C
    • Trumpet
    Cup diameter17.00 mm / 0.6693 in
    Cup depthMedium
    Rim width
    Throat diameter3.66 mm / 0.1441 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Yamaha TR-17D4
      • Trumpet
      Cup diameter17.30 mm / 0.6811 in
      Cup depthDeep
      Rim width
      Throat diameter3.65 mm / 0.1437 in
      BackboreSemi-narrow
      Finish
      Material
      Best suited for
      🎻Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone

      Cup Diameter

      The Yamaha TR-17D4 has a cup diameter of 17.30 mm / 0.6811 in compared to 17.00 mm / 0.6693 in on the Bach 1¼C — a difference of 0.30 mm / 0.0118 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      The Yamaha TR-17D4 has a deep cup while the Bach 1¼C has a medium cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.

      Throat Diameter

      The Bach 1¼C has a wider throat (3.66 mm / 0.1441 in vs 3.65 mm / 0.1437 in). A wider throat allows more air through, increasing volume and projection but reducing resistance.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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