Bach 1¼G vs Kelly 12C

The Bach 1¼G has a wider cup diameter, the Bach 1¼G features a deeper cup.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 1¼G
    • Trombone
    Cup diameter27.50 mm / 1.0827 in
    Cup depthVery deep
    Rim width
    Throat diameter7.01 mm / 0.2760 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    Best suited for
    🎻Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone
    📣High-volume projection — open throat for power
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Kelly 12C
      • Trombone
      Lead
      Cup diameter24.13 mm / 0.9500 in
      Cup depthShallow
      Rim width
      Throat diameter
      BackboreS
      Finish
      MaterialLexan polycarbonate
      Best suited for
      📋Lead trombone; smallest cup

      Cup Diameter

      The Bach 1¼G has a cup diameter of 27.50 mm / 1.0827 in compared to 24.13 mm / 0.9500 in on the Kelly 12C — a difference of 3.37 mm / 0.1327 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      The Bach 1¼G has a very deep cup while the Kelly 12C has a shallow cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.

      Material

      The Bach 1¼G is described as unspecified, and the Kelly 12C as Lexan polycarbonate. Material affects mass, warmth, and how quickly the piece responds.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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