Bach 17D vs Bach 4C

The Bach 4C has a wider cup diameter.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 17D
    • Baritone / Euphonium
    Cup diameter24.20 mm / 0.9528 in
    Cup depthShallow
    Rim width
    Throat diameter5.85 mm / 0.2303 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    Best suited for
    📣High-volume projection — open throat for power
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Bach 4C
      • Baritone / Euphonium
      Cup diameter25.75 mm / 1.0138 in
      Cup depthShallow
      Rim width
      Throat diameter5.85 mm / 0.2303 in
      Backbore
      Finish
      Material
      Best suited for
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

      Cup Diameter

      The Bach 4C has a cup diameter of 25.75 mm / 1.0138 in compared to 24.20 mm / 0.9528 in on the Bach 17D — a difference of 1.55 mm / 0.0610 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      Both mouthpieces share a shallow cup depth, so the sound character from depth alone will be very similar.

      Throat Diameter

      Throat diameters are essentially identical at 5.85 mm / 0.2303 in, so resistance feel will be comparable.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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