Bach 8½A vs Kelly 4B-UK

The Kelly 4B-UK has a wider cup diameter, the Kelly 4B-UK features a deeper cup, the Kelly 4B-UK has a larger throat opening.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 8½A
    • Cornet
    Cup diameter16.10 mm / 0.6339 in
    Cup depthVery deep
    Rim width
    Throat diameter3.66 mm / 0.1441 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Kelly 4B-UK
      • Cornet
      Orchestral
      Cup diameter16.51 mm / 0.6500 in
      Cup depth
      Rim width
      Throat diameter4.37 mm / 0.1720 in
      BackboreXL
      Finish
      MaterialLexan polycarbonate
      Best suited for
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power
      📋Professional cornet; British brass band

      Cup Diameter

      The Kelly 4B-UK has a cup diameter of 16.51 mm / 0.6500 in compared to 16.10 mm / 0.6339 in on the Bach 8½A — a difference of 0.41 mm / 0.0161 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      The Kelly 4B-UK has a — cup while the Bach 8½A has a very deep cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.

      Throat Diameter

      The Kelly 4B-UK has a wider throat (4.37 mm / 0.1720 in vs 3.66 mm / 0.1441 in). A wider throat allows more air through, increasing volume and projection but reducing resistance.

      Material

      The Bach 8½A is described as unspecified, and the Kelly 4B-UK as Lexan polycarbonate. Material affects mass, warmth, and how quickly the piece responds.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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