Bach 8½A vs Yamaha CR-9ES

The Yamaha CR-9ES has a wider cup diameter, the Yamaha CR-9ES has a larger throat opening.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 8½A
    • Cornet
    Cup diameter16.10 mm / 0.6339 in
    Cup depthVery deep
    Rim width
    Throat diameter3.66 mm / 0.1441 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Yamaha CR-9ES
      • Cornet
      Cup diameter16.44 mm / 0.6472 in
      Cup depthVery deep
      Rim width
      Throat diameter4.50 mm / 0.1772 in
      BackboreSemi-wide
      Finish
      Material
      Best suited for
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

      Cup Diameter

      The Yamaha CR-9ES has a cup diameter of 16.44 mm / 0.6472 in compared to 16.10 mm / 0.6339 in on the Bach 8½A — a difference of 0.34 mm / 0.0134 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      Both mouthpieces share a very deep cup depth, so the sound character from depth alone will be very similar.

      Throat Diameter

      The Yamaha CR-9ES has a wider throat (4.50 mm / 0.1772 in vs 3.66 mm / 0.1441 in). A wider throat allows more air through, increasing volume and projection but reducing resistance.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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