Bruno Tilz 210-F 42 vs Giardinelli 17FL
The Bruno Tilz 210-F 42 has a wider cup diameter, the Giardinelli 17FL features a deeper cup.
Mouthpiece A
Bruno Tilz 210-F 42
• Flugelhorn
CatalogCup diameter17.00 mm / 0.6693 in
Cup depthDeep
Rim width—
Throat diameter4.50 mm / 0.1772 in
Backbore—
Finish—
Material—
Best suited for
Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone
High-volume projection — open throat for power
vs
Mouthpiece B
Giardinelli 17FL
• Flugelhorn
Cup diameter15.00 mm / 0.5906 in
Cup depthVery deep
Rim width—
Throat diameter—
Backbore—
Finish—
Material—
Cup Diameter
The Bruno Tilz 210-F 42 has a cup diameter of 17.00 mm / 0.6693 in compared to 15.00 mm / 0.5906 in on the Giardinelli 17FL — a difference of 2.00 mm / 0.0787 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.
Cup Depth
The Giardinelli 17FL has a very deep cup while the Bruno Tilz 210-F 42 has a deep cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.
Which is better?
Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.