Bach 11C vs Bach 12

The Bach 11C has a wider cup diameter, the Bach 12 features a deeper cup.

Overall Comparison Cup Diameter Cup Depth Rim Width Throat Diameter Backbore Finish Material
Mouthpiece A
    Bach 11C
    • Baritone / Euphonium
    Cup diameter24.70 mm / 0.9724 in
    Cup depthShallow
    Rim width
    Throat diameter5.85 mm / 0.2303 in
    Backbore
    Finish
    Material
    Best suited for
    📣High-volume projection — open throat for power
    vs
    Mouthpiece B
      Bach 12
      • Baritone / Euphonium
      Cup diameter24.50 mm / 0.9646 in
      Cup depthDeep
      Rim width
      Throat diameter5.85 mm / 0.2303 in
      Backbore
      Finish
      Material
      Best suited for
      🎻Orchestral playing — large cup for full, dark tone
      📣High-volume projection — open throat for power

      Cup Diameter

      The Bach 11C has a cup diameter of 24.70 mm / 0.9724 in compared to 24.50 mm / 0.9646 in on the Bach 12 — a difference of 0.20 mm / 0.0079 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.

      Cup Depth

      The Bach 12 has a deep cup while the Bach 11C has a shallow cup. Deeper cups favor a darker, richer sound; shallower cups provide more brightness and easier upper register.

      Throat Diameter

      Throat diameters are essentially identical at 5.85 mm / 0.2303 in, so resistance feel will be comparable.

      Which is better?

      Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.

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